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Centaurette (4) by HollyBell Centaurette (4) by HollyBell


Someone in the previous comments suggested I make a poc centaurette to make up for the lack of color in the original group. At some point in the movie there was a little black centaur, but the way she was portrayed was very racist (and I think she was edited out later on for that very reason). My starting point was her design, but somewhere along the line I erred away from it :) Hope you like her !

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FangsAndNeedles Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017  Student General Artist
Oh yay! I'm so happy you did her, she looks gorgeous! 
Love the hair and the sunflowers :highfive:
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Tr1nks1e Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2017  Professional General Artist
Amazing ~ She looks absolutely fab! :heart:
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suzubell-chan Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2017
Wow~ She's so pretty! I love the sunflowers in her hair. The braid looks great especially with its cute bow!
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Jajna Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Lovely work~The variation is welcome with the background of animation.
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canko12 Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2017
wtf...
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salemcattish Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I just love your centaurettes. They are amazing!
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ToruKun1 Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2017  Student Traditional Artist
It's weird how Sunflower was portrayed as a pickaninny but the zebra centaurettes who hung around with Bacchus weren't particularly offensive looking.
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HollyBell Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2017
I know right ? They were pretty lovely looking !
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GuzzGutsy Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2017  Student General Artist
The movie was directed at adult audiences, and it was 1940, a still very troublesome time for racial and ethnic relations all over the world caused by WWII, i'm black, but TBH, i won't crucify Disney for that, it was the humor of the time, and many black people also found humor in those jokes, so, eh, i still think they should do what Warner Brothers did and own up and not try to hide or censor what they've done, and that still was other animators work and they didn't have the right to censor it, they could have done a version with non-stereotyped black centaurs that aren't serving others, as it would balance out the damage done before in my opinion.
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KPhillips702 Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Beautiful and well done.
I vaguely remember the deleted characters and such, being pressured with the time and all.
Overall amazing work. 
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Vitani-Yuy Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
I hope that you'll consider doing the zebra centaurs to go with this group... this one is lovely
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glowworm56 Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2017
I recall besides Sunflower--the little centaur who was helping out the lady centaurs with their grooming there were some gorgeous zebra centaurs who served Bacchus during that segment--they were designed well unlike Sunflower. There's also a second little centaur called Otika who rolls out the red carpet for Bacchus.

Anyhow, this centaur is gorgeous and I love her.
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HollyBell Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2017
Yes, I also wondered at the difference of treatments with those zebra centaurs. They were very pretty in my opinion !
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rachelillustrates Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2017  Professional Traditional Artist
Oh she's lovely! Glad you included her too.
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Draweroffantasy Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
Ohhh, very pretty
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jkrolak Featured By Owner Edited Feb 20, 2017  Hobbyist Photographer
Sunflower was very much a caricature even in the 1940's. You can see similar looks in the "Our Gang" series and other films of that era. She wouldn't stand a chance in today's PC world. The same reason that Song of the South appears destined to gather dust in the Disney archives. You can still find clips with her polishing the hooves and acting as a lady maid to some of the other centaurettes on YouTube.

The public has been somewhat kinder to her two less caricatured sisters seen with the drunken god, Dionysus (Greek god of party boys).vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/d… vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/d…

All 3 are still acknowledged by Disney and can be found with minimal searching.

Technically you've aged her up as she was intended to be the equivalent of a young child / maid helping the others get ready for their date ala the Antebellum era of the South.
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Agent505 Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2017  Professional Writer
Have you been able to find a clip of her anywhere?
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HollyBell Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2017
I haven't looked for it actually, but I did see a couple of screenshots on Google images so that's what I used as references !
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Agent505 Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2017  Professional Writer
Well, it's nice that you revived a character that has been swept under the rug of indecency.
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jkrolak Featured By Owner Edited Feb 20, 2017  Hobbyist Photographer
Just don't tell Da Mouse, I showed you where to look youtu.be/pdi3zX9DKm8 youtu.be/7Nx4ekJ0i_w
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Agent505 Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2017  Professional Writer
Wow.  Interesting how it got covered up - it's an interesting arguement, though, one that remains to be discussed.  In how that art, as a representation of the time in which it was made, is later altered to reflect better attitudes in subsequent years when that culture has realized what it did wrong.

(I think that made sense.  Thanks for sharing these, even though officially, they do not exist.)
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jkrolak Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2017  Hobbyist Photographer
Well the two zebra centaurettes still are canon.

Alas, poor Sunflower deserved a kinder fate.

It's not so much that what they did was wrong, any more than propaganda films during WWII from Disney and Warner Brothers were wrong. But they no longer reflect the attitudes of later generations. And too many people would try to generalize that as the whole current company view rather than realize it was a product of the times. But should you ask a WWII veteran, you may be "shocked" to learn that they may still have strong feelings that match those old portrayals of Japanese and German stereotypes. 

Like many things, a joke isn't funny when you're the target.
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Agent505 Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2017  Professional Writer
Agreed, it's scary to know what happened 75 years ago in this country and worry that it could happen again if the head idiot's foriegn policies and anti-Muslim politics continue.
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jkrolak Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2017  Hobbyist Photographer
Unfortunately most of those "Muslim" countries are acting much like Japan did in the 1930's and 40's as well. And unlike the Nisei of that era, many American Muslims and refugees are not going out of their way to show how misplaced such distrust would be. While they definitely all do not support the violence, they appear to tolerate it by their silence or worse trying to rationalize or excuse for it. Much like during WWI a few of those of Central powers descent (Germany and its allies) did commit sabotage and actively try to rationalize any action those countries took. To be fair save for the sabotage, the Allied countries were also active (and ultimately more effective)  in the US on the propaganda front.

There are also lots of historical incidents showing that such "round ups" don't work.  US has banned legal immigration from certain countries for a variety of reasons, working (Irish, Chinese), war (Germany, Japan), crime (Italy) and others. Usually not for long, and more often than not, it did not accomplish any meaningful nor effective objective beyond short term political headlines.

But DA is not the place to argue a complex issue.
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Agent505 Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2017  Professional Writer
You're right, there are other places for this debate.  Still, tough to discuss and even tougher to think it's still happening today.
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jkrolak Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2017  Hobbyist Photographer
Aside from El Presidente demonstrating once again that he's a very poor speaker, apparently you've seen something that has yet to appear on my newsfeeds.
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FlapperFoxy Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Very lovely!Fantasia - Centaur Icon 1 
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Spacergirl003 Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Dang, that's a real beau! If that part of Fantasia had to be remade now (animated), your design concepts would be picture perfect!
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loveforgotten Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2017
My favourite so far!
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Seleyana Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2017
Superbe =)
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Lolliangel123 Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2017   Traditional Artist
Woah, she's so pretty! :heart: I like her hair :love:
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child-of-aros Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
there was a little 'ugly' donkey centaur and also some rather graceful zebra ones...this lass is much better indeed
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jkrolak Featured By Owner Edited Feb 20, 2017  Hobbyist Photographer
Her name is Sunflower.

You can still find out more about her on the Disney Wiki page. She was intended to be an accepted caricature in the 1940's of a young black girl who was growing an afro hairstyle and a foal's body as she was supposed to be younger than the others. In it's day, cute. Not so much anymore.
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HollyBell Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2017
Now that you mention it her horse part did look like a donkey body... I didn't realize ! They really put some thought into their racist portrait huh .__.
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child-of-aros Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
yup they sure did :/ its a sad thing but least its better now if not perfect still
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CaribbeanRose9 Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
Oh she's beautiful, I love  her hair and tail. Thanks for this inspirational piece. :aww:
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DarthSithari Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2017
I remember that scene... weren't they part Zebra in that movie?
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HollyBell Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2017
No I'm not referring to those centaurs :) The one I'm talking about was deleted from the movie.
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